reincarnationcafe

[Sandra]

I was out with friends from the Renaissance Festival last night and one of them gave some news that really surprised. I know the guy at this website: I worked with him for years:

John? Is that YOU???

The man telling us was stunned and amused by the whole thing, then I said, "um, guess what?"

No, I didn't tell about Will, but we got into a good discussion about what reincarnation is and is not, I told about my experiences with Esther, and what might be happening with John, who is a big, sweet, wonderful teddy bear (and is apparently hanging out with Peter). It was a great discussion.

Do I believe him? No comment yet...

[Karen]

I just perused his website. Very interesting.

[Sandra]

I would love to believe John, but he did a huge no-no in my book:

The "spirit" photographs included on his website, which he says he took, are fakes. About the easiest kind of fakes to make and to spot.

I am so disappointed in him. I really like this guy...

[Brooklynfan]

The "spirit" photographs included on his website, which he says he took, are fakes. About the easiest kind of fakes to make and to spot.

I'll agree with you on that. Its the job of a dirty lens, dust particles, bad film, and some photshop work.

Anyone with any inkling of now cameras or computers work can figure that out, yet people still keep believing it. I've gotten better looking 'orb' pics while smoking and using my camera than he has.

Wilhelm

[Sandra]

Yes, the photoshop work is so easy now. I started working with orb pictures awhile back, and found 99% of what I came up with was light reflecting on dust. Nothing beats seeing something with the naked eye, and even that can't always be trusted...

It's all so elusive.

I e-mailed John, a very neutral e-mail, and he has not responded yet.

[pjt]

No, I didn't tell about Will, but we got into a good discussion about what reincarnation is and is not, I told about my experiences with Esther, and what might be happening with John, who is a big, sweet, wonderful teddy bear (and is apparently hanging out with Peter). It was a great discussion.

Do I believe him? No comment yet...

I apologize, it was a practical joke that got out of hand. I'd rather be a Theosophist like you bohemian artists.

Seriously, his picture of Jesus is factually incorrect. There is actually a wanted poster (no picture but a good description). According to it, Jesus looked a lot like Socrates but non-caucasian. He was pock-marked, short, heavy eyebrows, reddish kinky hair etc. That portrait looks more like Jake Gyllenhaal. Watch for my new website " I walked with Jake".

Evidently

Peter

Unlike him, I have a fairly negative view of Christianity in general and Catholicism in particular. I'm trying to overcome the weak spots caused by a lifetime(s) of celibacy, social isolation and imagining that the power in my life is some supernatural force outside of myself.

[pjt]

I think the Shroud of Turin is an Italian fake anyway. Manufacturing holy relics used to be quite a cottage industry.

I'm struggling to imagine what could create a spiritual manifestation of a forged relic. The most obvious conclusion is that he's the fake, beyond that, I'm open to suggestions...

Evidently

Peter

[Brooklynfan]

I think the Shroud of Turin is an Italian fake anyway. Manufacturing holy relics used to be quite a cottage industry.

What? you mean all those religious artifacts and finger bones of saints that the are considered "holy relics" are fakes??? the horror

I'm struggling to imagine what could create a spiritual manifestation of a forged relic. The most obvious conclusion is that he's the fake, beyond that, I'm open to suggestions...

Take a look at the actual photo (the one in the background). One of the things about smoke or messed up emulsions is that you can see ANYTHING in them, its why people can scry in smoke. What you see is usually more of a reflection of your own mind than what is actually there. To be honest without the picture, I can barely see it, and even with it there it is tenuous at best, IMHO.

I dont know if it is an intentional fake or the product of an overactive imagination, I do not know, but I think that the likelhood of that being a spiritual manifestation is about the same as that of my toaster sprouting wings and flying around the kitchen.

Wilhelm

[pjt]

I suppose if it helps him get out of bed and entertain the troops it's worth something anyway.

[Zetascair20086]

Seriously, his picture of Jesus is factually incorrect.

Yeah I mean a white jesus, come on now .

Unlike him, I have a fairly negative view of Christianity in general and Catholicism in particular. I'm trying to overcome the weak spots caused by a lifetime(s) of celibacy, social isolation and imagining that the power in my life is some supernatural force outside of myself.

Same here, still haven't broken out of celibacy and social isolation though. I rejected Christianity pretty rapidly in this life however so I've already learned to break away from it a couple of lifetimes back. Being burned at the stake and buried alive helped with that.

What? you mean all those religious artifacts and finger bones of saints that the are considered "holy relics" are fakes??? the horror

Here is where Fredism has the obvious upper hand, you can see or even touch our lord. Hell make a high enough offer we might let you piss in him or buy him on ebay, but we don't sell our lord cheap, he's not a hooker, he has SOME standards, albeit low ones! Fred is physically real enough that we've even drawn on him. Some of our members drew a weird blue mustache on him, caused a schism in the church we still haven't fully recovered from .

Take a look at the actual photo (the one in the background). One of the things about smoke or messed up emulsions is that you can see ANYTHING in them, its why people can scry in smoke. What you see is usually more of a reflection of your own mind than what is actually there.

Sort of like with inkbolt tests. Personally I think it may be legitimately possibly for people to get real information from seemingly illogical sources if we accept that it's just their projection of their own pyschic ability onto inanimate objects. Seeing the future in wax or pig entrails may be possible if it's just how you reflect your own natural pyschic ability, but it is none the less kinda strange and to most discrediting. I prefer to just use progression and dreams, pig entrails are kinda gross .

I dont know if it is an intentional fake or the product of an overactive imagination, I do not know, but I think that the likelhood of that being a spiritual manifestation is about the same as that of my toaster sprouting wings and flying around the kitchen.

Why would a toaster want to sprout wings and fly around, it's not an alarm clock, it can't make time fly! Seriously though I'm not sure what to make of this guy. I'll admit to a bias against anything too 'jesusy' and the photos don't help but it doesn't necessarily discredit the rest of his story. Judging his whole story based on 10 minutes worth of reading material on his site is hardly fair. At any rate if you can't have sex with the orbs what's the freaking point!

[pjt]

what pray tell is an "orb"



Evidently

Peter
(hey, you never did answer my question... do you know me?)

[AK6]

An orb is something that enters your pillow at night that you make sweet, sweet love to.

It's also been known to be a great tool for trolling.

Andy

[pjt]

Say what?

The only *orb* I'm familiar with is the coolest techno sound of the early 1990's.


Evidently

Peter

[Brooklynfan]

These are orbs...

http://www.xprojectmagazine.com/photo/emily/orbs2.html

Usually (AKA 99.998% of the time) they are the result of dust either on the lens or particles in the air. You can get some really cool ones if you take pictures in a wheatfield at night.. trust me on this...

As for the "orb Sex"... well, there are some people who beleive that these 'orbs' are actually spirits and that you can somehow have 'sex' with them.

I remember there was one awhile back who was claiming to have had sex with Himmlers 'orb'...

Wilhelm

[pjt]

looks pretty underwhelming. I guess it's human nature to yearn for the supernatural.

I like the band better. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Orb