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My first validations was the pool thing, i didn´t know there were any in the camps. I investigated a little then about this. There were 3 camps with pools,. Ravensbrück, Terezin and Auschwitz.
One day i found in CPL a method of automatic writing that consisted in just... write whatever comes to your mind. The first time i tried it i wrote about how a train of gypsy prisoners came to the camp and i lied to a woman telling her she could see her son three times a day if she cooperated with us and go where i told her.
The second time i wrote "20 may 1944: things are not well, internal camp problems... the superior changed, politics changed" I started to search after writing this and i discovered the commandar of Auschwitz changed in 11 may 1944 for the third and last time... this was my second validation.
So ...i think i worked there, everytime i see a colour picture of the camp i feel like i could breath the air and be there again
I also had some memories of personal things, but i couldn´t validate any.
I´m working in a red cross hospital carrying boxes with little "jars" and neddles during the war.(I suppose it was a red cross hospital because i saw a nurse with the red cross sign in her cap, just for that)
Then I did some research and found that there was a swimming pool in Auschwitz.
Brooklynfan wrote:My first validations was the pool thing, i didn´t know there were any in the camps. I investigated a little then about this. There were 3 camps with pools,. Ravensbrück, Terezin and Auschwitz.
Very true, in fact the 'pool' is one of the main 'factors' that the Holocaust deniers like to use to say that Auschwitz couldnt have been a death camp (despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary.) There was a pool there, in Auschwitz I, I believe. Olympic size, if I remember correctly, for use by SS men and officers, rather utilitarian looking. It wasnt used all that often, and it was also meant (primarily, IMHO) as a water source for the fire brigade.
Brooklynfan wrote:One day i found in CPL a method of automatic writing that consisted in just... write whatever comes to your mind. The first time i tried it i wrote about how a train of gypsy prisoners came to the camp and i lied to a woman telling her she could see her son three times a day if she cooperated with us and go where i told her.
Unfortunately, that wasnt particularly uncommon, especially amongst the medical personell. People will do things a lot more willingly if you can convince them that theyll get something beneficial from it. And even though I think most of them knew it was never going to happen, they still harbored that hope.
Brooklynfan wrote:The second time i wrote "20 may 1944: things are not well, internal camp problems... the superior changed, politics changed" I started to search after writing this and i discovered the commandar of Auschwitz changed in 11 may 1944 for the third and last time... this was my second validation.
Thats when Hoess came back after being transferred in Dec 43 because of certain allegations. To be honest, I liked him better, although we really didnt see much of him.
Brooklynfan wrote:So ...i think i worked there, everytime i see a colour picture of the camp i feel like i could breath the air and be there again
Would you be willing to expand on this? I dont know if I exactly understand what you are saying. Is this a "Schone Tage" (nostalgic) thing or something different? The reason I ask is because there was a very... unique quality to the air at Auschwitz, and I wonder if you have the same recollections.
Brooklynfan wrote:I also had some memories of personal things, but i couldn´t validate any.
I would be interested to hear if you are willing to share. Youd be surprised at what can be validated, and I have a rather large library of Holocaust books that I would be willing to reference to help you get more correlations.
Brooklynfan wrote:I´m working in a red cross hospital carrying boxes with little "jars" and neddles during the war.(I suppose it was a red cross hospital because i saw a nurse with the red cross sign in her cap, just for that)
Something to consider, by late 1944, its estimated that somewhere between 70 and 80% of the men stationed at Auschwitz were front line men who had been injured and sent to 'ride a desk' as they say (Actually, a large percentage werent even SS... They were members of the Heeres and Luftwaffe that were transferred to the SS) so that may be more valid than you might think.
Also, did the DRK worker happen to look like this-
http://www.soldat.com/KS3.jpg
or this
http://www.soldat.com/KS4.jpg
(as an aside, they actually tried to choose women to work the frontlines and hospitals who were 'homely' so the soldiers wouldnt be.. tempted. Didnt work. I gotta say, I thought the DRK worker that took care of me after I was injured was one of the hottest women on the planet... beside my Fiancee, that isThen again, I hadnt seen a German woman in a looong time, so she might have been a total Hundin...)
Zetascair20086 wrote:Now I remember you! You posted about this on CPL, I remember replying with the link to the photos of the pool at Auswhitz. What topic title did you post this originally under at CPL? I can search my document pad and repost whatever I wrote then.
Bohemian_scientist wrote:Höß again? what i found is that on 11 may 1944 the command passed to Richard Baer...
After being replaced as the Auschwitz commander by Arthur Liebehenschel on December 1, 1943, Höß assumed Liebehenschel's former position as the chairman of Amt D I in Amtsgruppe D of the SS-Wirtschafts-Verwaltungshauptamt (WVHA); he also was appointed deputy of WVHA leader Richard Glücks.
On May 8, 1944, however, Höß returned to supervise Aktion Höß in which 430,000 Hungarian Jews are killed.
8 May 1944
Kommandant Liebehenschel is transferred to Majdanek. The former Kommandant Rudolf Hoss (cant figure out how to do Umlauts here) returns and becomes the head of the SS garrison. Hoss is given overall command of the extermination of the Hungarian Jews
but i haven´t really read too much about the history of Auschwitz commandants or the organization of the camps, so well, now you explain it i understand.
Hey, i wanted to ask you about red cross hospitals. Do you know if they were hospitals or big tents that followed soldiers or what exactly?
Yeah, in CPL i only posted some things but not too much detailed. I think the title was "Holocaust", there was already a lot of posts in it when i joined, now it probably changed, i can look in all my posts to see how it´s called now but you already found it, anyways, the post you were replying to doesn´t differ from what i posted here about the pool dream.
I think it caused a little disturb the fact i linked to denial websites, but those websites are the only ones that presents pictures of the pool, so it was inevitable if people wanted to see pictures of it and know what it is said about it.
Brooklynfan wrote:
The institution of a new Commandant in Auschwitz I wouldnt have been something I was particularly concerned about. The three camps were sort of little universes upon themselves, so there really wasnt much interaction between them.
Brooklynfan wrote:
Both actually. There were field hospitals which were set up near the front lines (usually manned by men only, no nurses) These were usually either in large gray troop tents or hospital tents or set up in some local building (if they got lucky and found a solid building to set up in)
Brooklynfan wrote:
then there were the rear hospitals, which were more pernament. Most of the big hospitals were set up in either Germany proper, or one of the well controlled territories.
Brooklynfan wrote:
As an aside, I know there were a few medical personnel who were transferred (or wheedled) their way into Auschwitz after being injured at the front, so it wouldnt be a far streach for someone to have been transferred in from the front. I know of one famous example who spent some time at the front with Wiking before being transferred. He was rather proud of his frontline service- and his black wound badge. I can only hope that the medical care he gave to the men at the front was better than the care he gave to his prisoners..
Brooklynfan wrote:
On a completely different note, I noticed that you were talking about the Victorian era earlier. I will ask one thing, please, PLEASE dont use "From Hell" as any sort of reference tool for studying the Victorian era, and especially the Leather Apron murders. The only thing that it has in common with history was that there were a number of murders in one of the seedier parts of London, and that the fellow heading up the investigation was named Aberlene. Aside from that, its pretty much hogswallop (Yes, I completely despise that movie). If you want to know more about Victorian England during the time of the Murders, there is a good article on www.casebook.org called "Jack The Rippers London" that is very good. If you cant find it let me know and ill see if I can find it on my Casebook DVD (I know its on there somewhere, but its a bear to search- Ripperologists arent the best at organization... may be why theres only a single box of files left from the origonal case)
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